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big_loko_
01-31-2006, 03:09 PM
Hip-hop has been performed in a variety of languages -- everything from Japanese to French to Polish -- but if rap has an unofficial second language (second only to English), it is Spanish. Latino MCs have been flowing in Spanish ever since the Mean Machine recorded the bilingual "Disco Dreams" back in 1981. And in Los Angeles -- a city with a huge Spanish-speaking population -- two of the proponents of Spanish-language rap have been brothers Victor "Lunatiko" Lopez and Johnny "El Duke" Lopez, who comprise the duo Crooked Stilo. The Lopez siblings don't rap in Spanish exclusively -- they are bilingual and can just as easily flow in English -- but Spanish rapping has been an integral part of their work, not merely an afterthought. Crooked Stilo are versatile, offering both hardcore rap and more commercial pop-rap; they have been affected by the hardcore street rhymes of Cypress Hill, Ice-T, Kid Frost and Funkdoobiest, but they haven't been oblivious to the more pop-flavored material that Cuban rapper Mellow Man Ace recorded back in the late '80s and early '90s. And the Lopez brothers have never listened to hip-hop exclusively; they have also absorbed a variety of Latin music and have combined hip-hop with Afro-Cuban salsa, Colombian cumbia and other styles. While many of the Latino MCs who are based in Southern California are Mexican-Americans, Victor and Johnny Lopez are of Salvadoran descent. In fact, both of them were born in El Salvador, a Central American country that -- like neighboring Guatemala -- is culturally rich but has a long history of poverty, political unrest and politically motivated violence. (According to various human rights organizations, tends of thousands of Salvadorans were slaughtered by far-right-wing, military-backed death squads in the late '70s and '80s -- and for 12 years, the country was plagued by a long, bloody civil war that officially ended when the Salvadoran government and leftist guerrillas signed a peace treaty on January 16, 1992). Searching for a better life, the Lopez brothers' parents left El Salvador and moved to Los Angeles -- a city where the family encountered problems of a different nature. L.A. didn't have any fascist death squads, but it did have drugs, gang violence and street crime -- and when the Lopez brothers started getting into trouble with the law, their parents sent them back to El Salvador. But after two years, Victor and Johnny Lopez returned to L.A., where they formed Crooked Stilo in 1991. The '90s found Crooked Stilo building an underground West Coast following and recording a few independent releases, including their debut album, Crooked for Life and 1999's So What U Want (released on the R-Town label). In 2003, Crooked Stilo signed with Fonovisa Records, a major label that is best known for regional Mexican music but sometimes ventures into non-Mexican areas of Latin music. Performed mostly in Spanish, Puro Escandalo, Crooked Stilo's first album for the Univision-affiliated Fonovisa, was released in May 2004; the cumbia-influenced "Ya Lo Saben" was chosen as the album's lead single.

GUERA
01-31-2006, 09:25 PM
****~nize~***

DeaDPool
02-01-2006, 12:04 AM
I liked Crooked Stilo when they weren't with Univision, now they comercial. I remember that song "ponte trucha" with EL Dyablo..that was RAW!! NOw most of the time they do party songs, which is ok since they need to pay bills...but i hope they go back a little bit to their beginnings.

big_loko_
02-01-2006, 12:46 AM
I liked Crooked Stilo when they weren't with Univision, now they comercial. I remember that song "ponte trucha" with EL Dyablo..that was RAW!! NOw most of the time they do party songs, which is ok since they need to pay bills...but i hope they go back a little bit to their beginnings.

yeah yeah I remember thiz song:

Jesús el dyablo, Crooked Stilo
el profeta 2002
no es un fantasma lo que estas mirando
es al profeta al que tu estas mirando (es a mi)
es por el miedo que tu estas temblando (no tiembles)
acaso tu sabias que me estaba traicionando
te lo advertí sobre mi mente criminal, subliminal
soy un azteca siempre original
con Crooked Stilo estoy tomando yo un mezcal
cuidar mi espalda todo el tiempo siempre es vital
y mi misión es demostrarle al mundo mi misión
que los latinos son unidos como una nación
yo represento a mi cultura en toda situación
causando a mi enemigo envidia y su devastación
viviendo de este infierno lleno de traición
mi evolución en todo el mundo mi exposición
solo recuerda mis palabras
pues no me importa cuanto valga
tal vez la muerte espera que tu salgas

[Pearl]
Trucha, que aquí esta Crooked Stilo
watcha estos vatos son bandidos
están haciendo mucho ruido
tienen al mundo sorprendido
Trucha, que aquí esta Crooked Stilo
watcha estos vatos son bandidos
están haciendo mucho ruido
tienen al mundo sorprendido

[Duke]
Siempre fumando, es una crónica
estoy pisteando
me valen XXXXX tu, el y mis enemigos
en un descuido click, click sin testigos
solo entro se me quedan viendo de pie a cabeza pero el duke no tiene miedo
es suficiente que estoy loco de la mente
y los hago miar con el cuete en la frente
bang bang bang
se cagarón
bang bang bang
descontados
miren a la puerta el duke ya llego
soy el mas chingón y no hay nadie como yo
eres mi enemigo y te metes un hoyo
cruzas mi camino y te pongo en el hoyo
te crees bien chingon con tatuajes en el brazo
abres el hocico y te lo cierro de un putazo

[Lunatico]
Soy el Lunático tipo maniático
y cuando entro al escenario causo pánico
denme el micrófono para empezar la fiesta
no hay en el mundo entero
una rola como esta
no hay estilo como el mío, no hay un grupo como el mío
todos están diciendo crooked stilo esta tremendo
otros están sufriendo por que no tienen lo que tengo
y si lo tuvieran lo perdieran con el tiempo
pero no importa por que la vida no es para eso
es para gozar de las mujeres y del queso
de la feria callejero
un vato callejero
si me muero me muero haciendo lo que quiero
y mi adicción son las rolas, mujeres y pistolas
ranflas hennesey con cocacola
y si no te gusta puto yo te chingo
esta es mi canción
y aprendete mi lingo

[Pearl]
Trucha, que aqui esta crooked stilo
watcha estos vatos son bandidos
estan haciendo mucho ruido
tienen al mundo sorprendido
Trucha, que aqui esta crooked stilo
watcha estos vatos son bandidos
estan haciendo mucho ruido
ttienen al mundo sorprendido..

Trucho
02-01-2006, 12:52 AM
Have you heard their diss song towards Dyablo? & Dyablo's answer

big_loko_
02-01-2006, 12:57 AM
Have you heard their diss song towards Dyablo? & Dyablo's answer

No man,I think that no.I heard the mr shadow diss to dyablo,& the mr shadow diss to knightowl & the knightowl diss to dyablo...wow...all are efnadados entre ellos...LoL...

americanista
02-01-2006, 03:45 AM
this was wat i was talking about in the akwid forum, arriba el salvador !

DeaDPool
02-01-2006, 04:04 AM
Dyablo diss?? Man i need to hear that :D .....

Trucho
02-01-2006, 05:33 AM
Heres what happened between Dyablo & Crooked Stilo


When Crooked Stilo were underground Dyablo was one of the most respected rappers in spanish hip hop (at least in california) so crooked stilo contacted dyablo and asked them if they could feature him in their album. so that they could gain some recognition.

Dyablo accepted. they recorded the song "Trucha", that song was supposed to be in Crooked Stilo's cd.... but Dyablo stole the song from them, meaning after the song was recorded dyablo came out with the album "El Profeta y Sus Discipulos" and he put the song there.

So instead of Crooked Stilo having in their cd a "big name" featured as Dyablo was, they really didnt have no one with fame, so they didnt sell much copies because nobody knew who they were, but if Dyablo was featured in their cd maybe they would have gotten some more recognition...

So after that happened Crooked Stilo dropped a track called "Quieren Pleito" in that song Victor aka Lunatico (he produced a track for daddy yankee in barrio fino) he dissed him in "Quieren Pleito" while Johnny aka Duke did the chorus....


http://s12.yousendit.com/d.aspxid=11AIMQYGGMO1S3J443AAL85ZGZ


The real diss starts like at 58 seconds... check it out...


Here part of the lyrics:

pero ay siertos induviduos dyablo
que se estan clavando
la ralla estan pasando
y me estan encabronando
soy bruto cuando escupo
no respeto a putos
menos a cabrones que se roban rolas talking about dyablo stealing their song
que hice apenas en cinco minutos
so dame otros cinco
para acer otra mas cabrona
watcha tu espalda
cabron cuando entresa tu cantona
pense que eramos homeboys
pero me traisionastes
cheque con los cuates
y con ellos tambien la cagastes


si quiero te quito te robo tu estilo
tu estilo embustero culero
tu no eres rapero
lo que eres es rata I una rata se mata
tambien se le quita todita la plata
como quieras homie tu sabes
donde yo vivo
andas de abusivo
te vas a encontrar un esplosivo





Dyablo murdered them on the answer though, imma check if i have the cd... if i have it imma post it. its song # 1 in the "Don Dyablo" cd...

after this happened i stopped listening to dyablo... i just started listening to him again cuz hes helping out my homeboy "Insurgente 503 aka Pelon 503" with his new cd, he signed him under discos profeta... my homeboy is salvadorean and a very good MC, i'll post some songs later if you guys want.

big_loko_
02-01-2006, 12:34 PM
Oh yeah yeah! i´ve thiz song,I think that is...

Title: kieren bronca
Album: El Regreso
Artists: Crokked Stilo

Chorus:

Kieren pleito,kieren bronca,
estos putos me estan sacando de ondas

DeaDPool
02-02-2006, 10:49 PM
man C.S. killed Dyablo..but i'll look for dyablo's answer(since u say he killed them)...thankx for the info.

Trucho
02-03-2006, 12:14 AM
Yea Crooked Stilo's diss only lasts like 2 minutes... while Dyablo's is like 4 minutes. i havent had a chance to look for the cd, i been busy but ill hook you up with the song probably at nite... once i get back from night school

DeaDPool
02-03-2006, 12:31 AM
hey thanx man, whenever u find it, i already looked for it and couldn't find it. U can just add me to msn messenger and sent it there whenever i see u online.